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2009.09.29

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This is a good bit of information but I wish it was more detailed. You seem to have the PULSE of the industry when it comes to botnets, aside from Joe Stewart. I would VERY much like to see more detailed analysis on the Botnet backend infrastructures. Usually based on LAMP architectures. Discuss and expand on ways to compromised / subvert these. Why worry about taking Down.. a C&C when you can subvert the entire botnet by neutering it by taking over a C&C and wiping the bots or corrupting them. I doubt that there are sophisticated User based Access control functions that give various privileged levels based on Role like commercial systems do. Simply take over one of them and do the most damage you can possibly do. Find their drop sites and secure Wipe the captured data or Encrypt it in place. Or better yet trojan beacon the data after swapping it with falsified stolen data after you sanitize the original stolen data. I am disappointed by the continual lack and absence of Innovative solutions on taking these infrastructures out. De-peering and takedown requests are one thing. Waging counter cybercrime warfare is another. If the industry continues to fail at the attribution angle, at least it can succeed technically by doing surgical and tactical strikes at any touchpoint it can get its hands on. For more insights check out www(DOT)conanthedestroyer(DOT)net

Focused MultiVendor/Researcher strike forces against specific targets is the way to go to obliterating this threat.

Initial target list.

Conficker - (literally dropped off the radar in news coverage but still present)

Zeus - It has earned its reputation - now its time to smash it. (Over 500 Command and controls (Abuse.ch zeus tracker) COME oN? are you kidding me. get rid of it already.

Rustock - the level of sophistication demands a sophisticated response

Asprox - Mass disruption, automated sql injection Massive threat. Put a laser on it. (QUIT simply identifying exploitation/spreading/and C&C IPs/DNS names) Start opening up discussion on how to SMASH these networks. I could come up with about 10 ideas that dont even get talked about.

Clampi - $$$$ Stolen, need any more justification?

Waldec - AKA peacomm/storm - Is anyone pissed we havent gotten these guys yet. obviously the lowered profile has helped this second generation botnet in staying under the radar and being less sensational. I saw a post where the KNEW who exactly is behind RBN but refuse to say. I say why the HELL not. OUT these bastards. Put a name to a face and publish it far and wide. Run information operations against them and expose them. People dont like to deal with people that have so much heat on them. They treat them as toxic. Make it know that they have been discovered and are now Cooperating......

Or simply go over to where they live and give them a good knee capping. Either way something needs to change the level of debate and it should start with Knowledge and it should start now.

Diocyde

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